if this was just an attack by the obama campaign and obama was standing in front of the camera saying this is what i think about what he did at bain, it's a very different thing. but using words like harvesting. what does that make the people who lost their jobs, the chaff? what does that make them? this is the worst kind of abusive language that you can possibly imagine. >> the problem for him is it plays to, kristen, i will come back to you on this, it plays to this sense there's always been about mitt romney that he's too rich, too detached. with that comes a kind of arrogance and disconnect from the average american. these two things, his bain record and the taxes issue and the 47%, it all just morphs into a picture that he's just not one of them. >> yeah, but you know what, when we were living in times of peace and prosperity we have the luxury of trying to vote for the president who's the guy we would go get a beer with. you have unemployment over 8% for 43 months. when we're not living in a time of peace or prosperity, i think those issues of how much do i like this guy and how